Haha…
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It’s tough to say what Cates will do lol.
I don’t think you can get hurt buying Venom 9’s at $50 regardless of what happens.
If Dylan morphs into someone else, then Venom 9 is like ASM 298. Still desirable, but not anywhere near what ASM 300 commands.
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Dylan can go two possible ways I think after he’s going to experience his alternate in another universe.
He sees Codex as evil, so if and when he returns to his own universe, he becomes the Anti-Codex or he becomes power hungry and becomes more like Codex in his own world. I would love to see a character for once go from good to bad, instead of bad to good… so I’m rooting he becomes Knull’s biznatch boy on Earth 616 and becomes evil…
But honestly, anything could happen.
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Typically in the past, the market gets behind the first appearance as character X over the first human appearance.
See Carnage/Venom over Cletus/Eddie first apps.
But more recently with characters, we see their first overall app popping the most, not when they become X.
See Kamala (CM 14 over MPO), Riri (IIM 7/9 over whatever issue she becomes Ironheart), Cho (AF 15 not TAHulk 1), Etc…once spec gets behind a book it’s hard to change the market.
So it’s tough to say. And with Dylan showing powers prior to becoming X, it’s also muddied.
I think Venom 7/9 will always be big books if Dylan becomes something. When (if) he becomes something/someone else, that book will be big too. But it really depends on what he becomes. Full transformation to something else that goes over big, that could be the book. Minor change, just uses powers more, then Venom 7/9 is the book still.
We just don’t know. But by the time we do, it may be too late. Buy what you feel comfortable on 7/9.
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That would be great. Let it be something different.
I actually also had another thought, one that would never happen bc it doesn’t make a ton of sense for a story teller. It would also be more interesting if Knull actually killed Dylan Brock. I don’t remember the last Gwen Stacy level death that I could actually feel.
Death of Alfred doesn’t really get there for me because knowing the bat universe. He’ll be back when it’s convenient and until then, we’ll have an unlimited # of flashbacks and panels with Alfred anyway.
But a dead Dylan Brock would put instant weight on any story arc. Mind blown if Cates was crazy enough to kill a kid, however it’s just too over the top and probably closes more doors than it opens from his view
This is what I was hoping to find out about. I have taken some breaks in the past 5 years where i missed some of the new spec developments. For instance if you missed the last 9 months, you might not know that recent modern second and third printings can be huge.
Sounds like consensus is Venom 9 has a safe floor based on where it currently is. However we don’t have enough info to project what to make of his transformation issue and exactly how it will impact his first human appearance.
I think the difference between Dylan and other human characters who appeared before him and later bonded with symbiotes is that Dylan was born powered and is already part symbiote. As he gets older his look will evolve, as will his powers and character design, but I think in venom 7 and 9, what you see is what you get as far as who he’ll be down the road.
So other than growing older and visibly beefed up. You don’t think he’ll have a significant change in appearance? IE costume or w/e?
Well I expect changes when he hits puberty and his wardrobe will evolve with time lol, but I don’t think he’ll have a super powered glove or flying carpet, nothing like that. In the Symbiote world of characters, the typical milestone for a major change in appearance and power is when the human bonds with the symbiote. For Dylan we thought it would be with Sleeper, but it turned out he can’t bond with symbiotes because he already sorta is one. So based on what we know about Dylan and even Codex, I really don’t see a bigger ‘key event’ outside his first appearance.
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So you’re going all-in on the first appearance of Dylan Brock’s acne and facial hair. Noted. Do you think Codex will remain relevant in the grand scheme of things going forward as Dylan’s evil version?
Here is an interesting thought. What if we have already seen Dylans true potential?
He couldnt bond with Sleeper, but he could with Venom (See T-Rex venom in venom Isle)
What if his greatest power is “knowing” which symbiote fits with which Human for its true potential? I know it sounds stupid, but last issue all his talk about the symbiote he “picked” for Gargan to become symbiote scorpion… it got me thinking that along with being able to command then, he knows which are best suited for hosts
Food for thought.
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Did he bond with Venom (T-Rex)? I thought he was somehow commanding Venom through a telepathic link (while he was still physically within that dark void) but not actually physically bonded. Mind you, I haven’t read it recently so I could be wrong.
In either case, I don’t think your theory is stupid. I actually like the idea of a symbiote/host curator responsible for creating the best pairings.
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I just remeber thinking it was bad ass that Dylan was a venom t-rex
I think he’ll stay relevant, yes. Still not sure he’s evil though.
So he’s like a yenta grandmother matchmaker? I can definitely see Cates writing that into the story lol.
Dylan: “oh my gawd I’ve got the perfect match for you. A symbiote from Los Angeles, so handsome and a doctor. Come here you’ve got a little schmutz…”
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First Dylan won’t compare to when Dylan becomes the good guy super hero equivalent to Codex. That book will be so incredibly hot. But the print run will be huge get both honestly.
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Transformation book will top 9 and top it with ease.
He’s superbly wrong Cates always takes advantage of first appearances for all the obvious reasons. Anyone who thinks Dylan Isn’t gonna get an appearance change is fooling themselves.
I wonder if what Dylan potentially comes will look like Codex at all. Since that form starts from the same person, it would make sense for them to look somewhat similar in appearance… Size, frame, perhaps hair, etc.
Transformation should top it.
The kicker is if Cates uses the same Codex monicker, then Venom 25/27 will go through the roof. He probably won’t though, since he knows double dipping is more lucrative. What he may do is triple dip and with a 2 step evolution into something else, then Codex (a la Virus to -Symbi-Scorpion)