His Ultimate Fallout 4 A Good Investement?

Send it to CGC you’ll get a 9.8 lol

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Into the fire safe!

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We have the same fire safe lol

Not to hijack. What kind of safe? I need to get one. Looked on Costco/Amazon was completely clueless. What are minimum requirements, etc. Withstand fire for an hour? The safe would be for the UF4 and a few similar items. Thank u

Your safe looks kind of empty and sad. I won’t be robbing you… doesn’t look very worthy. :wink:

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This is what I have, a SentrySafe with digital lock. As you can see, I have a 9 volt plugged into the front because I neglected to replaced the AAAs that go on the inside. But, it shows that there’s a work around to powering it if you don’t open your safe frequently enough and the batteries die.

As to fire rating it’s: 350(177)-1HR.

That means:

The UL Class 350 1-hour fire rating means that when exposed to external temperatures of over 1700°, the internal temperature of the safe will not exceed 350° for at least one hour - a product with this class of listing is designed to protect paper records.

In other words, making sure it won’t get up to 451 Fahrenheit. You can of course get better ratings, 2 hours, 3 hours, etc. , but that comes with cost.

This safe is also in a corner of foundation which is unlikely to have a high fire load in the event of a fire. There’s not much in terms of fuel over in this area as there is minimal dry wall and it’s on the other side of the house from the utilities and other potential fire hazards.

There’s still risk, but significantly less.

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Thank you! Very helpful. Going to purchase one. I will do some research on placement relative to utilities, etc. That’s a good point and not something I would have considered.

Yeah I made the mistake of asking my brother one day. He’s a firefighter and did some arson investigation training. He talked me ear off for hours about it. I also had a client when I was doing criminal defense that was charged with arson. Had to do some of the processing of some of the scientific evidence. I at least had to understand it enough to put it in a court filing.

One day when I’m in my forever home, I’ll probably dig a higher rated one into the foundation and concrete it in so it’s part of the house.

Have the same as Drunkwooky except it’s not digital. Don’t like digital as I’m afraid batteries will die. But now that Drunkwooky showed we a way to overwrite that lol

I question whether being locked up in a small air tight volume is detrimental to preservation of the comics.

Fortunately two of the books are moderns which likely have a higher quality paper and resistance to off gassing. The other is a low grade book already…so hard to imagine it getting t any lower.

But i suggest people do their research on this before suffocating them.

I don’t know if the slabs are 100% air tight. CBCS used to allow for some “breathing”. But I wouldn’t put raw comics in there if they have the old newsprint paper.

If you’re not comfortable, you’re comics likely are not comfortable. I don’t think I would be comfortable in that safe…

If you’re opening it up daily, maybe not a big deal though.

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That being said, I’ve accumulated quite a few comics that have appreciated substantially in the last few years. So I’m now considering putting those in a safety deposit box. But I haven’t looked Into the details.

Anyone else considering this?

If you’ve got them in archival supplies it’s fine.

My comics don’t have lungs, a central nervous system, and a brain capable of comprehending pain though. Not sure this jazzy slogan holds much weight.

It’s opened ever other week and there are desiccant packs in there keeping the environment dry. I’m not too worried.

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Yup. Thats what I use. I have 6 Silica bags in there and change them every 3 months or whenever they turn yellow. Since that was what one person told me a long time ago to do.

I have about 20 or so comics in the safe. Some are raw some are graded and haven’t had any problem with them for the past 4 years. “Knock on wood” lol

You can buy silica packets that you can recharge by baking them in the oven.

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I keep my Silver Age keys in a safe deposit box. Ive got quite a few valuable books that I keep at home, mostly moderns. Ive heard that fire proof safes can be detrimental to comics, but I havent researched it myself.

Interesting. Need to look into that.

I just sold my pgx 9.0 today for the same price a cgc goes for @D-Rog

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I looked into it and it seems the primary concern is moisture. Most fire safes are also flood proof to a degree. Ironically enough this traps moisture in as well as out. It’s not enough atmospheric humidity (especially in a dry climate like Utah) to destroy documents, but to rust an old comic staple? Sure. That’s why you put desiccant in and stay on top of changing that. In humid environments (the south, gulf, places like that) it will be more of a problem.

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