I personally have been waiting for EOM to have his breakout cover. It followed a very specific pattern that I had noticed with other artists and shared previously. Glad I was correct on him and we finally got a break out book.
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Where did you read that?
Market manipulation isnāt easy to pull off. I can list a copy of X-Force 1 for $50. It doesnāt mean suddenly people think itās worth that. Collusion then? Maybe? The idea that several people are scheming together to drive up prices. There are for sure crooks out there doing shady shit, but did 10 sellers get together and say, āWonder Woman 15. Thatās our book. Letās list $15 copies, buy them from each other, drive up the price and retire earlyā? I just canāt see that happening. Maybe if those 10 people owned 90% of the books. Then theyād have that power.
Is it more likely that someone just said to themselves, āI guess Iād sell this for $15 if someone wants to buy it so that I donāt lose money on itā? Probably. Then someone buys it for some reason.
Claiming that weāre all in on some āgriftā is, well, kinda shitty. If everyone disagrees with you, is it more like they are ALL wrong and conspiring against you or are maybe you wrong? There are just smart comic people here that are pretty good at spotting market trends.
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I am guessing itās the same mentality as the people that will go to the higher price gas station as opposed to the cheaper price gas station where I live there are two gas stations literally across the street from each other on a non-busy road. I donāt know why but the gas station thatās more expensive usually has way more cars than the gas station across the street. That is $.10 cheaper
What if that someone immediately re-list the same book for the same price with the same picture. One of the sellers did this btw. You can believe whatever you want and Iāll believe whatever I want. I am curious why everyone seems to be taking this so harshly. Clearly trying to discredit my accusations as if you have something to lose if you donāt. I personally have no interest to engage further on the subject.
In that case, yes that probably is and feel free to call out both sellers on here. We always want to point out scam, sellers and crappy buyers.
I think whatās rubbing people the wrong way is that you were accusing all the members of this forum of doing those tactics
Iām sorry people feel that way. I am not suggesting that anyone here is conspiring to manipulate the market. At worst you might just be taking advantage of the fact in some cases. Which I can understand and canāt necessarily blame you. So if you were offended I apologize.
Not everyone lists all their copies in one listing.
If I have multiples of one book, I donāt list them all at once. Especially if I believe the demand may outweigh supply. I would be competing with myself.
I list one at the price Iām willing to part with itā¦whether that is the going price or not. If it sells, Iāll re-evaluate where the book is at and reliant another copy. That may be the same priceā¦or may be a higher price.
And if the books are identical (no discernible flaws) why bother taking new pictures? Thatās a waste of time.
And how do you know they did t bundle some books together from the same seller and just decide to throw another book in, and were discounted/refunded after the fact?
The point being there are just as many non nefarious explanations (if not more) than there are nefarious ones. So how do you differentiate between them?
Bottom lineā¦if you donāt care for the vine you get from the sellerā¦.then donāt buy their book, or give them business. But to prove a seller is up to something you really need to establish a trend with that specific seller.
Just because someone āgot luckyā on a $15 sale and immediately lists another copy doesnāt prove anything. And accusing someone of wrong doing based on a single sale isnāt right either. It reflects more poorly on you than the person you are trying to discredit.
So I suggest tabling this until youāre able to present more substantial evidence that actually means something, such as sales over time demonstrating this seller (or specified sellers) continually is/are moving books at $15 when copies sit at cover price. Over reacting to a couple outlier sales really doesnāt convince anyone of anything other than the buyers of those books are likely idiots.
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I have no problem continuing to gather evidence on shady sellers. You should probably apply this logic to the buyers you all list in bulk as well.
Also it would be helpful if admins could get on the same page. The owner says itās fine and Drog says itās not.
Your captious posts are monotonous.
Iām not the one continuing the conversation. Iām just responding. Feel free to hide my posts if you would like.
I never list all books at once. I do it one at a time. Different books have different imperfections. Also, that gives me a chance to list my next copy higher if the market is pointing f up.
If itās bulk of a dud that Iām trying to liquidate for pennies on the dollar, sure, Iāll do a stock listing with multiple available.
Theres another absolute drop from Felix comicart for issue 15 coming; for anyone interested
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Whatās the over/under on this one selling out? 0.5 seconds?
I saw something a week ago in passing, but havenāt been able to find more info or get a live date.
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0.5 +/- 0.1 seconds.
Several hundred dollars on secondary market out of the gate, id surmise
Dec 30th at 12 on east coast
Not everyone has time for detailed pics. Now if the seller re-lists a book with the same detailed pics, something may be amiss. However, if it was was market manipulation to show sales, using a stock photo would probably be what they use. Sellers often donāt list all their stock at once, so they could have multiples
Ah. Just checked my email and I got one about this. Cool.
Iāll give it a go. Just to frustrate myself.
A couple of notes:
- Third Eye has implemented upgraded bot protection and captcha on their site. Please keep in mind these additions are not 100% bulletproof, but should help a lot. Also keep in mind, these are popular releases that do organically sell out in minutes.
Minutes? I think theyāre being generousā¦
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Iām not sure why this issue is selling like it is. Issues 44 and 45 (final issue) donāt seem to sell as well, but there arenāt many copies either. This was a great series, but I donāt think it sold extremely well.
I noticed that a copy of the Image Expo variant for 8House Arclight #1 (title Brandon Graham launched after Prophet ended) recently sold for a crazy amount. Has there been an influx of Brandon Graham love recently?
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I use to think like this and then I realized, most people and Americans are horrible with their money. Most live paycheck to paycheck and thereās nothing Iām gonna do to stop that. So let stupid people make stupid decisions with their money. Iām not the one whoās inflating the prices on a comic or item that people are spending their last cents on so if I can get it for cheap and flip it. so be it. Itās on the buyer at that time rather than the seller. Most of us comic flippers who stand in lines and buy our stuff at retail prices to turn around and flip it for profit are doing nothing wrong.
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