Odds and Ends

Totally disagree.

At least as the next step. The nickel should have been discontinued along with the penny. Now we have to round up and down 5 cents…no one is taught how to do this

Just go straight to the dime and cut off a decimal that’s no longer needed.

I though the Nickel was even more lopsided than the penny as far as cost to create vs face value…

We’ll have to watch it under the interesting sales threads.

What are the odds this set sells for more than the sh!t stained Superman #1 (CGC 9.0)….

Well, most Americans are just stupid.

The general rule is, if it ends with 1, 2, 6 and 7, round down. 3, 4, 8 and 9, round up. It’s not effing hard…

Was there a specific total circulation for 2025? If it’s significantly lower than previous years, may be worth stashing some….

Thanks for making my point …the rule changes from 2 to 3, then back again for 8 and 9 is going to confuse people.

Just move the damn decimal to the left…same rules apply.

Stupid government, is a more accurate statement.

It is reported to be smaller than previous years but nothing makes these special to be honest, the only special ones are the ones they set aside and auctioning off as the last 232 sets with the special 24k gold one. Other than that, I wouldn’t expect premium values on 2025 pennies, at least not in our lifetime.

I also agree the nickel is or should be next on the chopping block but that really complicates things I think. I think the U.S. Treasury reported around 17 million in losses for nickel production in 2024 while pennies they were losing around 34 million I think. But from most reports and articles I’ve read, paper dollars switching to coins would save billions over 10+ years since I think they claim 70% of the bills printed each year are replacing older bills. But there are those who also dive into the mechanics of merchants switching from handling dollar bills to dollar coins which keeps us printing dollar bills still since there’s so many variables in the estimates of losses across the board.

Reports indicate there was around 1.3 billion pennies produced in 2025. Small in comparison to previous years but you still have to consider, there’s billions of them out there. So save them if you want, they’re only worth 1 cent and in our lifetime, I don’t see that changing much unless they find some error coins that you might stumble upon that increase the value just a tad bit and depending on what the person buying is willing to pay.

I’m going to start listing them on eBay…Rare!! HTF!!!

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Uncirculated too… that’s key in the coin world!

Seems like the penny is slightly less than 4x the face to produce while the nickle is slightly less than 3x.

But I can see where more pennies are created it is a larger total loss.

Millions is actually a pretty small amount of the total budget….one may say…”Pennies” compared to the actual number…

Found this graph interesting… I do recall 2009 and 2010 they really cut back on coin productions due to recession, 2024 is interesting as well, probably decision to fight off inflation.

So gobble up those 2024 coins too… they’re HTF and RARE!!! :wink:

Pennies pre-1982 are likely worth saving more…should buy $1M worth and melt them down for $2M…a $M profit!!

No one will miss them or be the wiser…they’re billions of new ones every year!

Because I know Mr. “You can’t do that!!” will tell me it’s illegal…I have a potential loop hole.

You’re allowed to put pennies through those penny squishers as souvenirs…so after they’re squished they’re no longer pennies…so melt those down! Problem solved!

However we’ll need a lot of penny squishers to get the job done in a reasonable amount of time to make it profits….

Need to draw up some curves….buy enough machines to do the job…will need to be modified to speed up production though…

Legally you are not allowed to melt them. You can’t take them to a metal scrapper to melt for their value, they won’t melt them. You are not even allowed to export them outside of the U.S. either for profit…

No, you cannot legally melt pre-1982 pennies to sell for their copper value, as it is illegal in the United States to melt down pennies and nickels for profit. While pre-1982 pennies are 95% copper and their metal value can exceed face value, federal law prohibits the melting or export of these coins for profit.

But there is a loophole I think and thought of… maybe. It is allowed to deface or use in artwork or make within art… and with that said, run all those pennies through one of those machines that smash them to create a stamp of whatever park you went to or gift shop and then maybe you could take them to get melted, denying they were even pennies in the first place… but to spend all that effort to “turn into art” to then only melt seems like overkill and you’re likely losing more money than gaining at that point.

Haha, I was typing up my response as well… and we had the same idea for loophole.

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I’m the guy on the left…you’re the one on the right.

Oh snap, they have laws against melting smashed pennies too…

No, you cannot legally melt smashed pennies for profit in the United States, as it is illegal to alter or deface currency for fraudulent purposes. While the act of smashing a penny itself is often considered legal if it isn’t for fraudulent intent, melting it down for its metal value is not permitted and the U.S. Mint’s program for redeeming mutilated coins is now permanently closed.

It did seem a little too easy of a loop hole…

Your just gonna have to start melting them yourself and hope you never have the Secret Service show up…