Shots fired
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This is exactly what CBCS needs to say, and they should keep repeating the message. Iâm only surprised it took them this long to create an email alluding to CGCâs massive fail.
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Iâm just gonna grab my popcorn and take a seat for this fun battle between two titans.
What battle? You need opposing forces for a battle to happen. CBCS isnât anywhere near CGCâs level and nothing will come about from this. CGC is basically an elephant and CBCS is an ant.
People have way too much money invested in CGC for anything to change. Probably why CBCS is so slow to try and take any advantage of the situation because they know it wonât change a thing so why bother.
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âŠso put my popcorn away?
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Every few percentage points that change the dynamic matter; especially when the âdynamicâ (i.e. F-up) is occurring every 6 months - 1 year.
1% move over for acetategate
2% for newton rings
2% for constant cracked delivered cases
1 - 2% for this major scam
Keep adding it all up because sure as sh&t another one is coming in 6 months to a year. Bank on it
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in the words of metallica: sad but true
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How many big boy booksâŠthe real classics that leave folks wide eyed and bushy tailed, do you ever see graded in a CBCS case??? Very rarely
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And how many of those can now be trusted?!! Could all be swaps!!! 
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Too true now. Could have missing value stamps. Married pages. Missing pages. Who knows.
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No, Iâm talking about âtheâ big boy books. Yes, I realize books that were impacted by the CGC scandal werenât cheap, but Iâm speaking to the truly rare, big money books.
Nobody is buying up multiple copies of Crime suspenstories #22, Batman #1, etc to pull switch a roos.
The golden age gems just arenât typically graded by CBCS. Regardless of ones thoughts on the situation, it would be foolish to do so. As much as many of those reholder books are viewed as âgrailsâ letâs be honest, they just arenât really rare whatsoever. Hulk 181, ASM 300, Black Cat 194, etc, etcâŠit was easier to pull that scam because they are so easy to obtain.
Too much high roller money wrapped up in CGCâŠitâs not going anywhere as the comic powers that be arenât going to let that happen.
âŠ.or are theyâŠ.?
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Curious what others though about CGC grading older books with a different standard as modern books. This video details books recently sold at hertiage auction, many over 1 millions dollars which were grade 9.2 and 9.4 for older books with writing on the cover and abrasion and foxing. if these defects were on a modern book the best they would do in the around 7.5. doesnt make sense.
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I agree 100%. But if I start on CGC; I fear I canât stop myself. This is just âthingâ #89 with them.
Queue in the excuses folks will come in with to justify this nonsense: "Well⊠theyâre older books so⊠" or "Well⊠at that time the paper quality was⊠" or âWell⊠foxing is to be expected becauseâ âWell⊠older books canât be held to the same condition expectations of a new bookâ, etc. etc. etc. etc.
Excuses, Excuses, Excuses for those that cant handle accuracy in exchange for detrimental impact to their comicâs FMV.
Oh wait⊠I almost forgot⊠itâs all subjective, so itâs all cool. My bad
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Iâd like to add another âgripeâ. Iâve become really confused as to how CGC is handling some of these different âspecialâ collections that come to light.
I understand that there are Pedigree collections, and that certainly some of these are deserving of such a status, however Iâm seeing more and more labels that arenât really Pedigrees but are just sort of âspecialâ for some reason or another.
I personally own some like this but it still leaves me scratching my head.
Almost seems like a big $$ game and conflict of interest as these collections are always brought/shopped to the grading companies.
Just seems like a really vague sort of criteria and how much money is involved in the game?
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We havenât talked about it here but it seems like a lot of people in the community are really upset about this new 9.9 prescreen that cgc is going to roll out. I wonât be partaking in such nonsense from cgc, looks like another giant scam to me.
However cgc will have to give out SOME 9.9s to keep dangling the carrot so these dummies will keep sending their books in to prescreen to get this mythical 9.9 (aka cgc graders throwing darts on a board). So with more 9.9s in the market a lot of dealers are worried that itâll put further downward pressure on the prices of 9.8s.
Cgc the protector of the community 
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Thing #90
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For cgc it is an excellent business move. Most new comics will not hit 9.9 so itâs free money. The 9.8 prescreen should be sufficient because it could be 9.8 or above. But now people are trying to push the envelope to get better and better books. But again, for cgc, it is free money.
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I donât think so. As a business move they have to deliver 9.9s, as @SpicyWasabi said. Otherwise this thing will die in the vine as people get frustrated when 100s of books getting returned and nothing to show for it. So 9.9 will become the new 9.8.
This really should only impact those who send in new releases. But going forward you will ABSOLUTELY see a lot more 9.9 new books on eBay and at shows.
I donât care for it, because it likely further eats away at what we perceive to be CGCâs integrity. Itâs just one more example of CGC putting $$ ahead of that model of integrity.
If someone shows you who they are, believe them.
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I was initially thinking what Anthony said â this will be free money for CGC â but I do think SpicyWasabi and D-Rog are on to something that is a likely case scenario.
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