The thing I don’t understand is, for someone like that, how are they even navigating eBay to make that purchase.
Nothing about those bids makes logical sense given the potentially available information. Could bots be bidding for someone, and those bots are written well enough to distinguish the facsimile? (This is rhetorical, I’m just trying to make sense of this)
I just bought an early Star Wars book (1977) thinking it was a pretty good deal…it didn’t have anything but a price on it…and it had a UPC so I thought it was a first print. It was later I saw the “reprint” hiding in the upper left corner…I should have inspected it closer…especially early Star Wars books which there are so many variants of reprints. So thats on me.
The worst is when you see sellers that have sold like 50+ copies of Stan Lee “signed” books yet that is all they sell. It’s always a random book too nothing key. I always report those listings when I see them.
Seriously. $800 for a facsimile? That’s really messed up.
The second one looks like definite shill bidding. There was quite a few retractions on the first one.
Exactly. And at this point with so many facsimiles now, it may be worth proactively telling friends and family to not buy “big” books as gifts.
I think my first-ever post on this forum was during a holiday season, seeing a sizeable number of New Mutants #98 facsimiles selling for high prices. I’m convinced they were all intended as gifts and it just sucked to see.
I think you missed the point. The sellers appear to being misleading/deceitful. Being deceitful is not something that one should just ‘let slide’. The only idiot in this scenario is the deceitful seller, or their supporters. 
Lol. No accountability for one’s own actions. Find someone else to blame. Sounds about right.
My lord. The buyer isn’t the idiot here, huh.
They come across a raw copy, that looks like it came off the press yesterday, of a book that was released 46 years ago.
No one has graded it yet even though a 9.2 is an $8-10k book now AND comic book eBay is not even bidding it to 4 digits.
The listing says 2021 publication date.
But the seller is the idiot…
Buck up cowboy, the internet and especially the current economic climate means anonymous people on the internet are going to try to deceive you and earn any way they can.
Just pay attention and you won’t pay hundreds of dollars for a facsimile.
The buyers are definitely the idiots here. Every time.
Again, you’ve missed the point.
Where is the accountability for the one being deceitful? Smh. You’re trying to victim blame. Sorry, not sorry, but, you’re trying to defend scum. Your ignorant actions speak louder than any of your self justifying words. Facts. 
Both are to blame. The seller misled, but showed the correct information if you read and looked at everything. The buyer should have looked closer.
Yup. Seller wants to keep on the down low the actual type of book and descriptions in the listing in hopes he scores a big sale price while the buyer clearly shouldn’t be buying comics they know nothing about.
But in this case, I’d put most of the blame on the seller. They’re the ones listing. I know if I listed a facsimile that one can buy for $5 currently at a local shop and it sold for $800 I’d probably let the buyer know such a thing and offer to cancel, etc.
Heck, I felt bad when a buyer put in $250 max bid on a the Mace Windu #5 (because he didn’t want to lose out) I had over the holidays which was selling around the $75 dollar mark. Some turd just kept bidding the book up so it ended up selling for like $225 or so. I sent him a Last Ronin #1 first print and some other goodies for keeping his end of the bargain (I asked I’d accept a cancellation if he wanted to).
To bad there aren’t enough agentpoyos out there…
There have been a lot of comments in this thread blaming both sides. While I think caveat emptor rules, and ultimately the buyer has the final responsibility in the decision to purchase, we can’t hold these sellers blameless.
They are posting intentionally misleading listings in the hope of taking advantage of undereducated consumers. In my vanilla day job, we would point that out as a violation of most states UDAP/UDAAP laws (Unfair, Deceptive, Acts or Practices/Unfair, Deceptive, Abusive Acts or Practices).
Think of it this way - you walk into a car dealership and ask for a used Ferrari. They show you pictures of a Ferrari that isn’t there, but you agree to buy it and they’ll drop it off at your house tomorrow. The big day arrives and you (surrounded by your friends and neighbors) hop in to take the new car for a ride only to discover it’s an 1988 Pontiac Fiero with a body kit. Yes, you should have checked the Carfax before you bought it, but you asked for a Ferrari, they showed you what looked like a Ferrari, sold you what you thought was a Ferrari, and now you’re stuck with a broke-ass Pontiac with a fiberglass shell. Would you be calling your lawyer?
And yes, I work in the car biz. And yes, there are dealers that operate like that. And a third yes, they need to be run out of business because they give the rest of us a bad name and cause headaches for the entire industry. Selling comics isn’t any different.
Exactly!!! That is super cool to do that. What is your ebay name?, I want to save you as a seller and buy from you now 
It’s real simple just run over the package with your car claim damaged in shipping and return you get your money back seller gets his account frozen if the money isn’t there still, and he’s out $4 and shipping for his facsimile everybody is happy and their time wasted.
agentpoyo but sadly I don’t sell on eBay anymore when they switched their payments and stopped using paypal. I sell seldomly on Mercari at times though, same name. Sometimes I’ll even sell here out of the forums.
Imagine a world where the title of the comic is actually indicated in the Title field of Ebay?
"Werewolf by Night 32 Facsimile Edition is the title of the comic.
That is the title. That is the identifier. That is what goes into Overstreet, GPA, GoCollect, GoHome, GoAway, whatever.
Interestingly, “Facsimile” is missing in those title fields. I can’t imagine why? I really have no clue
I guess it was a minor oversight on their part 
Seriously, the buyer absolutely bears some responsiblity. How much responsibility we will all feel differently, clearly, as indicated in the responses.
But these two sellers are purposely deceitful P.O.S. They knew what they’re doing with the omission of “Facsimile” in the Title field. That fact alone is kinda not debatable. How one feels about the purposeful omission of a word that is part of the title of the comic is probably also debatable. But I know I’m not going to deal with them - ever.
In fact, I have blocked both of them. God knows what else they are deceitful at.
Yup, they are. BUT… the problem is, by taking advantage of them you A) possibly chase people out of the hobby, and B) give the hobby a bad name. Neither of those things are good for the hobby as a whole.
I always love seeing these type of auctions. Means I have hope to profit off mine one day 