We all hate store variants but

I mean, we all know it’s all about money…but it always stings just a bit when that fact is just sort of flaunted right in front of you is all.

Got plenty of those :wink:

cgc is getting raked over the coals on the cgc forum, all they have to do is say all future grading of these books will be green label

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Maybe more people should submit home-made acetate variants… :thinking: :thinking:

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who makes the acetate covers, i want to buy stock

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CGC and CBCS have really gone out of their way to poop the bed multiple times this year.

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Holy smokes. Wouldve been better if they just didn’t say anything LOL

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There isn’t a single party in this entire fiasco who seems to understand brand management.

(Except the “influencer” whose name I’ve already forgotten who was one of the people identified taking stacks from the booth at the con, but hasn’t made any attempt to excuse themselves on social media.)

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Of course they won’t, they’re making money! Money is more important than having any moral values!

I meant that all the “influencers” who’ve posted videos attempting to excuse themselves… have had to take them down since because of the backlash against their weak self-justification.

There’s one guy who simply hasn’t said anything - which looks like the most sensible move at this point.

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New response from CGC:

CGC graded these comics only because the acetate cover was created by the artist himself.

Which just opens up a whole new rabbit hole for collecting to go down…

Not to mention - is that CGC throwing Clayton Crain under the bus?

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Here is where CGC is wrong, Image planned the Acetate variant and it was done as part of the publishing process. This was done after the fact. Metal covers are becoming a bigger and bigger thing. Nothing to say you can’t now make your own metal, acetate, wood, or whatever material you have lying around, print, cut, or paint whatever you want on it, and submit the books as a variant.

Cgc has fallen down a very slippery slope.

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This wasn’t even part of their logic and I’m not sure Crain had anything to do with the acetate.

Here is the official response from CGC regarding how we graded the books.

We apologize for the short response yesterday and wanted to follow up with an explanation of our thought process behind the grade assignments. We treated them as we would any other variant cover that’s attached with an extra set of staples after the book was printed, and at times these books included the original cover as well.

There is a precedent for acetate covers being attached to a printed book, and then graded by CGC. An example is Stray Dogs #1 from last year. An acetate variant cover was attached with an extra set of staples, to which CGC assigned a Universal grade and a notation of “acetate cover” on the label. The extra set of staples were part of the manufacturing process of attaching the acetate cover, and not considered a defect.

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Check the boards again, Mike just posted what I quoted.

Nevermind. There it is:

Still not sure that’s true.

They have been since the Wizard First books. They slip, slide, bruise their reputation for a bit, we laugh…rinse repeat. Unfortunately, nobody is forcing them to change.

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So it was ok because Crain did the acetate…yet did Marvel know Crain was creating this acetate (or does it even matter?). Does marvel or any publisher have any say if the acetate doesn’t contain their property on it?

So can any retailer reach out to the artist who originally did their variant & have them do a little artsy acetate work & Bada bing- new variant?

Makes my head hurt.

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No. They shouldn’t, but CGC is digging in their heels…for now. I expect that thread crescendos on Friday night and a solution is reached by Monday morning. Hold onto your butts.

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They surely must have some degree of control. What if the acetate had shown someone disrespecting the US flag, that kind of brand damage could be enormous. If their lawyers haven’t thought of the potential for this… they will add it to contracts pretty quickly.

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I’m still not convinced Clayton had anything to do with the design of the acetate cover. I mean, the only part that looks like it isn’t photoshop (potentially)(maybe) is the flag Miles is holding.

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