Need to flip through #11…i think Destro’s first Full is 14, and he’s on the cover…while 11 he’s a “shadow” which really doesn’t fly much these days as a “true first” regardless of what cgc or cbcs puts on their label.
I dont wear my socks on the boat :)
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Thats why I used quotation marks for cameo. I think his 1st is credited as #14, even though I think he appears in 13 as well. I think I might have to flip through some comics this evening. And yes Dreadnoks not noughts. My bad.
I had to go diggin’, but I found some of my ‘key’ newsstands, CPVs, and UK Pence variants. Ive got more buried, Im sure, but this is a quick take. The majority are 9.6 or better, imo.
These are for you, @Wheat. I just noticed your CHU image is Storm Shadow. This is my GI Joe #21 newsstand, 1st Storm Shadow. These Joe books were some of the first comics I ever bought as a kid. They are not in 9.6 or better. Lucky if they are 4.0s, lol.
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Definitely not a “cameo” in 11. Destro has 15+ panels of dialogue and is obviously part of the story…they just don’t show his face!
So the question is…do you need to see the characters face in order for it to be a “first” appearance? Or named?
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I don’t think it can be called a cameo. Cameos are brief/minor appearances by definition. This is not brief and is a major part of the story.
On the other hand it’s not a first full… because you don’t see the full character head to toe!
I think it’s just a first appearance, face not revealed.
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im still picking up newsstand copies of batman beyond 1st apps from the 1st and 2nd series in 1999. some of them have incredibly low print runs like issue 5 of 2nd series 1st shriek, print run 17k. that year newsstands copies were 5% of run so thats 850-900 copies of that 1st app in newsstand
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I bought Batman 608 online through eBay.
On the topic of GI Joe…thought you all would appreciate this. As I said, I loved the book as a youth. I come from a line of Marines & ultimately seved in the Corps as well. As such, Gung-Ho was my favorite!.
Larry Hama drew this for me after we talked about our military time. One of my fav pieces!
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Comic book cameo definition and real word cameo definition certainly, imo, are two wholly different things. While I understand that 15 pages, dialogue and being a key part of the story is not typically a comic book cameo, the fact that he goes without a name or a face would classify, to me, as a comic book cameo, aka not a ‘1st full’. Without a name or face, I cannot jump on board with that being a ‘1st full’.
Thats probably stretching “cameo” to its breaking point. But I have to agree , no name no face hard to say first full. I will have to check #13 later to see what his “2nd cameo” consists of.
Agreed. But this Destro 1st that you and @D-Rog brought to our attention, is one for the ages. A real beaut as far as what is what, re: his ‘1st full’.
Here are recent to fairly recent UPC pick ups. For the First Spider-man 2099 I would only look to High grade Newsstand or Variants such as Canadian or Mark Jewelers (if they have them). Tons regular prints made so if he ever becomes a big thing the “variants” will be the ones that move first.
Gi Joe, Transformers, Conan and Robotech were the first comics I collected monthly. When I was around 13 I tried to but together an entire set of GI JOE. No internet and San Diego Comic Con was only once a year so outside of the local shops I was out of luck if they didn’t have an issue in stock. I don’t have to remind anyone who was around back then how insanely popular GI Joe was in the mid late 80’s! By 1986 or so not being able to come across the first twenty five issues is an understatement .At least in my area! It was definitely a waiting game. It took close to a year before an issue 21 was available at on of the four local shops. I think it was $20, maybe $25. That was a lot of money for a 14 year old kid back then. The owner gave me a month to pay it off. Still have it. Such a great issue! A classic for the ages!
Some classic Joker covers there! Nice!
