New Venom character Codex

Gotcha, i was able to get copies of the virgin variant at $20 each which i thought was good bc it would be more scarce than the trade. Now realizing the trade is more valuable, that’s somewhat unfortunate.

I think my disconnect was that if the trade was an official marvel release i didn’t think the virgin of the exact same issue would be a store exclusive. Ah well

It’s not a bad deal. But ultimately, scarce or lower print runs do not always mean they’ll be worth more either over their counter parts.

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I’m seeing 5x copies of the virgin on ebay and none at less than $45. So i suppose $20 each is a good deal but wishing they were the trade now. I also have a couple of the trade.

Ultimately you decide are you a collector by day, and flipper by night? Purely a flipper? Collectors will think alittle differently than a flipper.

Yup… lots of types of classes when it comes to comics:

  1. Readers
  2. Collectors
  3. Speculators/Investors
  4. Flippers

The pure readers only care about reading comics. This is the type that don’t care about value, the value they get from it is just reading them.

Collectors are exactly that, people who collect. They might care about overall value of their books but aren’t likely in it to sell or sell under different circumstances, hard times, retirement, etc.

Speculators/Investors I lumped together. These are the types who speculate long term on comics. They want to buy books in hopes they get a nice turn around either a week later or 2 decades later. They sell when they think the value has peaked and they make profit from their initial investment.

Flippers are people who walk into a shop or buy online and intend to flip the minute they can at quick profit, whether it’s a dollar or hundreds, doesn’t matter, it’s all about the quickest return for their money.

Now, one can be a mixture of any or all of these.

Like, we’ll use Anthony as a good example cause I think he pretty much falls in line in every category.

He reads comics.
He collects comics by flipping other comics to buy the ones he wants to collect and keep.
He also buys books for the long term investment by speculating early on a book.

You’ll probably find a large majority of people who hang out on comic book speculation sites are a mixture of several of these or all.

I have friends who are only readers. I know some who collect (seriously, they buy and don’t read and just tuck it away nicely in the long box)… The there are some who only flip.

I’m sure we could come up with some other categories but I’d say those 4 are the primary ones when it comes to comics.

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I’m more of a collector who has sold in the past but am more inclined to hoarding which is a great way to lose value lol.

The virgin is actually a horizontal virgin variant whereas the trade is vertical, so this will feel a distinctly different book.

It sounds like although the exclusive virgin is less valuable, it would still hold okay value in the event codex becomes popular… they’re all listed at $50 on ebay but I cant tell if those are just bs fishing prices. Does anyone have a rough sense of the value of the virgin variant at this time?

Yep I collect first appearances and for years I would get one copy and move on to the next book on my list. I was there for Miles, Gwen, Kamala, RiRi, Knull, Batman Who Laughs. I learned after Miles and Gwen always buy 3 copies and always get the variant even if it costs you hundreds of dollars the day it comes out if you believe in the character. I didn’t have money as a kid to ever buy more than one copy of anything off the rack so it was burned in my mind to collect that way. So I’m a collector even though I’m currently selling and flipping I take both extended breaks every year from buying and selling books and switch to other hobbies. Most of the time good comics start coming out towards the summer and you may have one good book in November and another in late January early February. I skip the rest and keep an eye on what your all talking about in case I need to buy something.

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eBay is probably the best source to get a good indication of “real time” value… Just search and check off the “sold / completed listings” search option.

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I subscribe to covrprice.com. Have my whole collection in and watch daily trends and changes in prices. As this service matures, I hope they give greater application in AI and predictive analytics.

3000 for first cover. That cover can be trade dress, virgin or B&W. If you do a 2nd cover w/ same art, it is a minimum of 1000, and that can also be trade dress, virgin or B&w.

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I was made aware by comp last night that I misspoke and confused you and alanas points on the matter. I apologize poyo. It was a comment made in jest but it clearly wasn’t very funny lol. In regards to the topic switching, was just making a joke that wasn’t funny obviously and I apologize for All the confusion in this regard. I check these forums in my lunch and sometimes skimming gets you in trouble, clearly!

The 1:100 sketch of of cover B

So are store variants just not as sought after in regards to secondary market vs the actual marvel covers and ratios?

The 1:100 will be smokin’!!! Red hot!

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Some people don’t buy store covers, some people don’t buy Star Wars, some people don’t buy moderns, some people don’t buy independents, some people don’t buy ads, some people don’t buy previews, some people don’t buy later prints, some people don’t buy naked covers, etc… but there’s a market for everything no matter what anyone’s opinion on it is.

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Heh… it’s all good. I’m man enough to admit when I am wrong… which is normally all the time… :wink:

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Maybe if the book itself takes off but to my knowledge, if it doesn’t have Codex on it… it’s not going to be “red hot”… From what I’ve gathered, it’s a sketch 1:100 so it’s just the BW sketch of the main cover…

Poyo says… Only buy what I tell you… :stuck_out_tongue:

According to ebay, sales are largely around $35-50 for the virgin. So pricing seems to be somewhat in line with the trade version for now. Based on this, $20 is actually still good assuming codex isn’t a dud in which case it doesn’t matter

What is the 1:100 going for? should shoot up once the book is released.