Ya but on the website someone is trying to make a mockery and said wink wink wink someone buy this off me, which goes to show me the book is a joke, other wise people wouldnt already be trying to get rid of it @agentpoyo @Alana
Death Metal #2 is not Robin King i dont even think Robin King is from the same Earth as Batmam Who Laughs because they would both be Bruce Wayne from the same Earth the same person. The Robin Goblins have a clear origin they only say crow they have geeen hair from being poisoned by Joker, their parents were killed by Joker. Robin King kills his own parents, speaks in complete sentences, and has black hair
Well that pretty much explains why book 2 turned into a Mockery Lol
Key Collector Comics has issued an Alert for Legends today stating:
1st full appearance and origin of Robin King
1st full appearance of the Darkest Knight
Origin of B-Rex, dinosaur Batman
And for the 1:25 it states: 1st cover appearance of the Robin King
Game over in my opinion. Load up on Cover A and the 1:25 of Legends.
Poppin Bottles
Because Key Collector is the final authority? Meh…
No offense but Im just saying the market speaks for it self , Metal 2 aint sold out anywhere, the book aint moving thats all im saying, its dead in the water
Well, DM2 was likely very heavily ordered as well since Snyder tweeted that Robin King was going to appear in it… hmmm…
Lol ya and he also tried to pull the same stunt with BWL
Did you mean to say Metal 2 not Death Metal 2? DM 2 Robin has black hair.
Snyders own quote: "In Dark Nights: Death Metal #3, you meet the Robin King. He’s kind of born in #2, but in #3 you get to see him interact for the first time with the heroes. I love him because I’m just writing his dialogue now – his whole history, his secrets, you’ll learn who he is, what he is"
So, please do tell me Alana, how the Robin King we likely meet in Death Metal #2 (yes, it’s a cameo but still an appearance) the same in Death Metal #3… I’m having flashbacks now of the Donny Cates as the creator telling us what is and what isn’t in his own effing writings…
Factually speaking, Wolverine first appears within, “Incredible Hulk,” #180. However, the market prefers his first cover appearance in #181 and second interior appearance.
The truth may be we see Robin King in issue #2, but the market seems interested in the one-shot more. This could shift, so just sell everything you have of both and #3 besides one of each for the personal collection, maybe.
My two cents…and that’s about all it’s worth…
It’s exactly as Poyo laid out. DM2 the Robin is the same Robin as Legends etc. So Bruce Wayne Robin Goblin whatever you’re want to call him, first appears in DM2. He also has black hair in DM2 fitting with Alana’s theory.
That does not necessarily make DM2 THE book. You can argue he isn’t RK in DM2, that he first appears as RK in Legends making RK 1st in Legends, Bruce Wayne Goblin first in DM2. Several people over the years have first appeared in one form, then became their big character and it’s the character first app that is THE book (See Brock/Venom, Cassidy/Carnage as two of the most notable).
Even if Legends becomes THE book, DM2 till will get residual heat and eventually climb. It’s also tied into the Darkest Knight potential too.
We can’t get into definitives, the market is crazy due to excitement. That doesn’t mean the market won’t change. It also doesn’t mean that future story lines won’t change how we look at appearances.
Venom 3 comes out it was all Knull first app. Until Venom 4 came out and told us he actually first appeared 5 years earlier in God of Thunder 6. Things change.
Let the story play out, buy all the possible keys, let the market sort it out. We don’t deal in definitives in comics, everything is fluid.
Exactly @davidbitterbaum, when I’m arguing/debating a first appearance, I don’t base the argument/debate on which is more valuable. You base it on actual factual evidence.
So, yes, Snyder confirms with his own quotes (as the creator and writer of Robin King) that we first see him (the character that becomes Robin King to all others) in Death Metal #2 and then more of him as Robin King in Death Metal #3. Now begs the question, is the Robin King in Legends the same one in Death Metal, is it another multiverse version of him?
I guess we’ll wait and see… but regardless, the market is currently swinging for Legends #1, still doesn’t take away the fact that the Robin we see in DM2 is and will be the Robin King we see in DM3, according to the guy who’s actually creating him own words…
I’ll take the creators words over any and everyone when it comes to the facts.
We dont know the whole story yet, the Roblin Goblin in Death Metal #2 Does not speak outside of the word crow we have seen his origin already as well. Robin King speaks throughout death Metal legends kills his own own parents and was never poisoned by Joker or trained and chained by Batman who then became Batmam who laughs. The same character can’t have two origins and kill his parents and then have Joker also kill his parents in the same story.
Snyder, the creator says Robin King we see in DM#2 as sort of his beginning… then more of him in DM#3… just gonna have to take his word for it, since you know, this is all coming out of his brain as his creation.
Unless, you are Snyder and you’ve been playing us this whole time…
And as for Snyder’s comments which are worded like a master writer would. He says the idea of Robin King is KINDA born in Death Metal #2 and we will see him interact with the heroes in Death Metal #3. No where does he say Robin King 1st appears in Death Metal #2 and in #3 he will meet Batman Wonder Woman and Superman again doesn’t say he first appears in #3 either
So yes Poyo I do understand the writer and what he has said do you?
“In [Dark Nights: Death Metal #3], you meet the Robin King. He’s kind of born in #2, but in #3 you get to see him interact for the first time with the heroes. I love him because I’m just writing his dialogue now – his whole history, his secrets, you’ll learn who he is, what he is. I’ve seen a lot of speculation,” Snyder explains.
The Robin in DM 2 doesn’t have green hair. He’s got black hair. Do we really know his back story at all?
And it’s pretty clear he tells him more then the word crow while whispering in his ear.
Before this he asks him to tell him his story. It wouldn’t just be the word crow by the way he reacts. It makes sense that he tells him his origin as told in legends. That origin ends with that character calling himself Robin King. Then right after the whisper BWL asks him will you be MY Robin King. It fits.
If there are two different characters, they’ve got a lot of stuff to work around to explain not to mention writing off the first robin and somehow bringing in the second one into the main story especially if it’s a different multiverse Bruce. It’s much less complicated the other way.
Yes, he appears in DM2. I don’t think you’re understanding what’s being presented… here’s another quote from CBR where he describes what’s happening in DM2 and then what we should expect in DM3:
I don’t want to oversell him, I just love him because he’s so scary to me. I don’t want to give away his origin, but if I took the Batman Who Laughs and made him just…he’s almost the maximum amount of horror I can stuff into a character and get away with at DC. But the Robin King is the real maximum! [ Laughs ] If you took the Batman Who Laughs and took out the elements that made there be kind of a kernel of hope, in some way, and made that character young also so they’re doubly frightening. They come across as this kind of innocence – this innocent, sort of heroic-looking figure – and they’re just as evil, if not more evil.
I just think the design is cool. He’s got something to kill every hero; it’s all he thinks about as a child, how to destroy the heroes. So he’s got all these means of torturing them emotionally and then killing them. Issue #2, you see his inception where the Darkest Knight – which is what the Batman Who Laughs becomes – kind of invites him in to be his sidekick and then issue #3, you see him step out in his costume and get his first moment on stage when he confronts the Flash.
I’ve made it easy and bolded the important parts…
You believe whatever makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside. I’m gonna take Snyder’s actual words over your own theories… Not sure about the rest of you all but that seems pretty straight forward that the Robin in DM2 is the Robin King we’ll be seeing in DM3.
Character has green hair in your pictures you posted, here is the full origin of the Robin Goblins it helps that it’s also the full origin of Batman Who Laughs so you can’t go but Snyder because he wrote this origin already.
I don’t need Snyder’s comics I read his books the books don’t change. He also didn’t tell you all about Teen Titans #12 when he talked up Batman Who Laughs 3 years ago so you should of expected another misdirection