Vaccine......Yes or No?

Maybe you just drop it? You keep repeating the same nonsense over and over.

You digress a lot.

Yes, the government has granted immunity from liability to the pharma companies. So for putting “government” and “pharmas” in one sentence and confusing you.

I only repeated it because after I posted it once, AngryBungle still thinks it’s not true… you’ll see I quoted him in my reply.

My point is we get it. We understand how you feel about it.

OK I’m done. Sorry for any rudeness on my part… it was mostly directed at jclu, who has a pretty condescending attitude in this forum in general.

That was me also but that’s what courts and judges are for and to decide. The great thing about America is just because our government shields a company doesnt mean it can’t be overruled in our great judicial system. :wink:

Why are you so cryptic in your message? Please follow this conversation and explain how your point was missed. What exactly is your point? All you do is ask questions - who do you sue? Effective at what? Prevents what disease?..

Questions are not ‘a point’. Smh. I digress.

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I feel like we’re just going through Semantics here.

Vaccine is really meant to fight off the severity of he infection. Whether you “have Covid” or not is somewhat irrelevant, unless they confirm asymptomatic vaccinated people are still spreading it.

“ And none of the three vaccine trials looked at all for asymptomatic COVID-19. "All these efficacy numbers are protection from having symptoms, not protection from being infected , " Barker said. (Some early studies hint that the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines also reduce the number of viral particles in a person’s body, called viral load, and the likelihood of testing positive at all, which would cut transmission. Still, because we don’t yet know that for sure, people “can’t throw away their mask” once they’re vaccinated, Barker said.)”

Vaccines are not meant to prevent a virus from existing, they are meant to provide your body a safe way of producing natural antibodies against covid, as to give your body the ammunition it needs to beat the covid virus if it where ever to enter your body naturally, before you get deathly ill.

Again, you really need to research this from peer reviewed papers. You seem to need some basic education on how vaccines work. I digress.

That’s from October before the vaccines went public and before the clinical trials and FDA reports were released. That headline also isn’t an actual quote from Fauci. Everything the CDC has put out in April states the vaccines are effective in preventing Covid cases. Actually 94% effective according to the CDC and the Mayo Clinic.

:rofl::rofl::rofl: damn those munchies to hell!

Life is hard for a pimp trying to stay in shape while smoking cheeba every day. :sob:

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They should have been given immunity. In order to get a vaccine out fast, trial and error stages needed to be waived. Is it perfect across the board? No. Optimal conditions? No. But it saving a lot more than it’s hurting and helping people stay safe.

This argument should be used for gun control. Who wants others putting lead, involuntarily, into their bodies?

Yes, “prevent” is a loosely fitted word. With a normal vaccine, you obviously get the virus and the vaccine helps stamp it out. With these vaccines, the virus doesn’t get stamped out… the symptoms and severity are controlled.

That’s why these covid vaccines are not claimed to prevent anything. I digress.

You’re the one throwing the word ‘prevent’ around. Not science. Again, this vaccine DOES NOT PREVENT the virus.

Now you’re just trying to stir shit up haha